Comments on: Immigration in Germany - a sad story http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/ Music, Lifestyle, Science Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:25:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Thomas http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56303 Thomas Fri, 11 May 2007 00:07:08 +0000 http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56303 Ja, das war eher das was ich im Kopf hatte, weniger das was mir Herr Eberhard unterstellt. Ja, das war eher das was ich im Kopf hatte, weniger das was mir Herr Eberhard unterstellt.

]]> By: Andreas Wagner http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56197 Andreas Wagner Thu, 10 May 2007 21:10:39 +0000 http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56197 Thomas, not too long ago I heard about an initiative in berlin helping out non-german entrepreneurs in the whole usual business-plan-writing-yadayada way but even more to get all the bureaucratic crap done. (and to warn them about how much crap that really is!) heard about it from an italian-canadian couple who just opened a very recommendable café/bar in prenzlauer berg. after more than a year of running for all kinds of permissions, (and of almost running out of savings) so you get the picture. I´ll be back here after fetching the links to it all! Thomas,
not too long ago I heard about an initiative in berlin helping out non-german entrepreneurs in the whole usual business-plan-writing-yadayada way but even more to get all the bureaucratic crap done. (and to warn them about how much crap that really is!)

heard about it from an italian-canadian couple who just opened a very recommendable café/bar in prenzlauer berg. after more than a year of running for all kinds of permissions, (and of almost running out of savings) so you get the picture.

I´ll be back here after fetching the links to it all!

]]> By: Dirk Stüber http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56051 Dirk Stüber Thu, 10 May 2007 11:14:46 +0000 http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56051 I don't think Thomas outlined a backward looking perspective neither did he only focus on the economic problems. I agree that a proper, fair, human and economically useful immigration concept is absolutely necessary. But I agree with you in this point: "We should behave in a more modern way now. Germany should welcome foreign skills, and be friendly to her guests, but first and foremost, we should be more proud of what we are able to to ourselves" Still, it makes me also angry that is is exactly NOT what's happening but rather the opposite. I don’t think Thomas outlined a backward looking perspective neither did he only focus on the economic problems. I agree that a proper, fair, human and economically useful immigration concept is absolutely necessary. But I agree with you in this point:

“We should behave in a more modern way now. Germany should welcome foreign skills, and be friendly to her guests, but first and foremost, we should be more proud of what we are able to to ourselves”

Still, it makes me also angry that is is exactly NOT what’s happening but rather the opposite.

]]> By: Eberhard http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56040 Eberhard Thu, 10 May 2007 10:34:24 +0000 http://www.stylewalker.net/2007/05/10/immigration-in-germany-a-sad-story/#comment-56040 This is an interesting point of view. However, I don't agree with it at all. You seem to have pretty little respect for what Germany can do. You seem to imply that most of Germany's problems can be solved by simply letting foreigners do the job. Come-on, this is so backward. This is a 1950's and 1960's point of view when lots of people from Turkey, Greece, Italy and elsewhere were lured to come to Germany to do the jobs that Germans were not willing to do. We should behave in a more modern way now. Germany should welcome foreign skills, and be friendly to her guests, but first and foremost, we should be more proud of what we are able to to ourselves, and not keep crying for help from others like babies. This is an interesting point of view. However, I don’t agree with it at all.

You seem to have pretty little respect for what Germany can do. You seem to imply that most of Germany’s problems can be solved by simply letting foreigners do the job.

Come-on, this is so backward. This is a 1950’s and 1960’s point of view when lots of people from Turkey, Greece, Italy and elsewhere were lured to come to Germany to do the jobs that Germans were not willing to do.

We should behave in a more modern way now. Germany should welcome foreign skills, and be friendly to her guests, but first and foremost, we should be more proud of what we are able to to ourselves, and not keep crying for help from others like babies.

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